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Undiagnosed Since 2005  (Read 3661 times)

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wow, I cant believe I didnt find this forum before! you try to explain things to your friends and family, but for someone who's never been sick a day in their life, they can be sympathetic all they want but they never seem to "get it".  it's nice to know i'm not alone.

I guess my story begins a little over four years ago in late 2004.  I didnt know it at the time of course, but in hindsight I should have seen the warning signs.  It was my senior year of highschool, and well for the most part.. there isnt much to tell about it.  I never gave it a second thought at the time, just putting things off as getting older or growing up, but I began noticing subtle changes in my behavior.  It's kinda hard to explain but like something would happen and for some reason it just felt.. different to me.  things I used to love doing I just for some reason didnt seem to have my heart in it.  I was a star athlete prior to my senior year and just when I went out I just.. just didnt seem to enjoy myself as much any more.  It was a very odd feeling but I never thought anything of it.

Anyway, a year goes by and its my first semester in college.  I'm super excited about being out on my own for the first time, maybe a little too much :) heh.  It's a great first semester, meeting new people, new experiences, except a few things changed.  I think it was maybe the second week of school when I began noticing that my urine had become cloudy.  Much like there was some kind of thick mucous in it.  I began having a fatigue unlike any other i'd ever experienced.  There was a time when i skipped almost 3 days of classes and was in bed for almost 30 hours straight sleeping.  I should have gone to the doctor then, but at this time in my life, I didnt get sick. I never went to doctors. anyways, a month goes by and a very strange thing happens.  all of a sudden one day my jaw locks up.  i had to take a hand and force it open.  it was so sore i couldnt eat for almost a week.  sadly this became more frequent until eventually, it stayed locked.  got easier to open of course but would pop every time i opened my mouth.  but these physical symptoms meant nothing to me.  i blew them off for poor nutrition, stress, or any other bogus thing i could come up with.  there was however, one thing that was a little alarming.  that odd feeling i had before, was becoming stronger, i'd go out to football games, out with my friends, and yeah i'd have fun but for some reason, it was just like.. i wasnt enjoying things like i was supposed to.  but nonetheless, i was making good grades, chasin after a special girl ;) and all around my life itself was going where i wanted it to. but didnt.. feel right.

my next semester came around, got myself a new girlfriend :) was being more social, making friends, my grades were better.  things were going great despite the odd feelings residing in the back of my mind, and strange physical symptoms.  that is of course until march 1st 2006.  i awoke to my first nightmare in almost ten years.  it was startling, strange but all in all insignificant.  i blew it off as just a dream, and went on with my day.

Up to this point everything that has happened has had no effect on my life, and honestly paid no attention to any of it.  but 3 days after that nightmare something happened that has changed the course of my entire life.  everything is different and will never, ever be the same.  that odd feeling in the back of my mind hit me like a freaking train.  I was walking to my class, listening to music and instantly felt sick to my stomach.  it wasnt nausea or any kind of physical pain.  the only way to describe it is like every single person I have ever, or ever would love had just died.  like anything that had ever mattered to me was taken away.  That's what this feeling felt like.  it wasn't physical, it was emotional and mental.  it hit me for about 30 seconds, in which time i fell to my knees and almost through up, then went away just as quickly.  it was startling, and noticably shook me.  ten minutes later it hit me again, twice as intense except this time, it did not go away.  this was march 4th 2006, and to date has yet to subside even for a moment.

I remember crying myself to sleep that night.  but what was extremely unusual about this was that, nothing happened.  no one died, no one broke up with me, i wasnt failing, everything was fine.  over the next few months, I dedicated myself to figuring out what was bothering me.  obviously still had no idea I could be ill so was picking apart all aspects of my life.  I've never spiraled so quickly into a state of confusion and depression in my entire life.  I'd try so hard figure things out, it was consuming me.  it was my parents who were so alarmed with my abrupt personality change that forced me to go see a doctor.  it would take me almost 6 months until i finally agreed to go, convinced i could figure it out on my own. the next day they called me up telling me my calcium levels were way above normal.  I remember thinking to myself, "high calcium? what does that mean" i remember googling it and coming back with hyperparathyroidism, I checked the symptoms list and it read: 1) Confusion, 2) Depression, 3) Irrational mood and behavior, 4) headaches.... it was like looking into a mirror. I was shocked. The thought of something being wrong with me was extremely hard to grasp. 

that was 2 years ago.  since then I have been to 15 different doctors, endocrinologists, internal medicine, neurologist, urologist, gastroenterologists, pyschiatrists.. my doctors office has become my second home.  i've had progression of symptoms to include dark brown and red urine (NO blood), extreme abdominal pain and an odd feeling that i'm not digesting foods properly.  recently i've began to notice my hand shaking and twitching has become more frequent.  about a year ago they did find a birth defect called Dandy-Walker Syndrome with acquired hydrocephalus.  i underwent brain surgery to place a shunt to relieve the pressure (my brain had swelled to 5 times its normal size).  unfortuntely it appears this was asymptomatic, and it has made no difference to my well being.   

every day seems to be an endless and exhaustive search for an answer.  I find myself just making up reasons that I feel bad just to have something to think about and give myself some sort of hope.  (anti depressants seem to have no effect on me).  that person i used to be was gone a very long time ago.  I find it hard to explain to people whats wrong, and it's even harder for people to understand.  i've gone through phases of denial, blaming god, resuming the fight, giving up, and even wishing I were dead just so the pain would stop. 

wow, i just realized i've been thinking about and writting this for like 3 hours, i'm sorry this is so long.

i guess you reach a point where you wonder, will a light ever show me the way? if it'll ever end.  i try to be optimistic, try to look at what i'm "supposed" to learn from all this, and honestly, when it's all over it'll probably be the best thing that ever happened to me, being how hard i looked at my life.  but. i dont know.. it has to end first.  i'm just tired of not knowing whats wrong.  i dont feel normal.  and not knowing has driven me half insane like a thousand times. 

my medical bills.. (horray for insurance! :P )
15 doctors..
Blood tests: $13000 +
Surgeries: $140000
MRI's: $15000

Diagnosis: Priceless...




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Hello... thanks for going into detail on this, and I'm sure it did you a certain amount of good to get all that written, if you haven't done it before.   The very first signs you had that something was wrong all sound so alarming that I'd have been off to see a doctor like a shot.

It sounded as if you had a diagnosis, the hyperparathyroidism... did that turn out not to be all of it, or did they just not have a treatment?  You must consider this undiagnosed, since you're here.   Brain 5x normal size?  Was there extreme pressure, since the skull couldn't accomodate that?   

I've wanted Greg House to come by, rough up my useless former doctors, and get right to the heart of my problem in forty-five minutes, myself....

Two big questions that perhaps we should all be thinking about:  One, why is it so hard or impossible to make even a little progress on conditions such as these... (a lot has to be in the mindsets of doctors, but that's a huge subject)?   Two, how do we get around this, if years of going from one MD to the next don't seem to be leading anyplace?  I'd like to think the Internet could be used creatively to find a different breed of doctor with a different point of view, or different priorities, or just more driven.... But as great a tool as the Internet is supposed to be, as much information as you can access with it, how do we search for it?

I like the idea of, in effect, fringe undiagnosed patients doing some collective bargaining... getting together to seek out those different doctors, get their names out there, and offering them ourselves as a source of business for them, if they'll take on these baffling kinds of cases.

I'm not even sure that highly specialized doctors are a good idea.   These conditions often bleed over into many different medical areas of expertise.   Someone with a more generalized approach might be better able to see the condition as a whole, and how the different parts fit together.


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I agree man, if anyone knows of a doctor who is driven like that, please tell me and i'll call them right now!

I should have gone to the doctor back when it all started, what makes it all so much harder is that by the time I finally did, my symptoms had become intermittent.  so I'd have attacks at home, and when I went in everything would be normal.  so I never really know what to do.  But hyperparathyroidism was never a diagnosis, it was just a personal realization that there might be something seriously wrong.  i was tested for it the next day and it came back negative.  My only official diagnosis is dandy-walker variant.  but thats not what's causing all the symptoms. and yes there was extreme pressure, but i didnt know it, i've had it since birth apparently so it was no different to me.  But nonetheless, i underwent brain surgery to place a shunt to relieve the pressure.  it's always a calming thought to look back and realize it didnt make a bit of difference.. :(


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Welcome to the Forum Jason  ;D

Love your subject title (all i want for christmas is dr. house) dont we all  :P
Wow you have been through hard times, it's interesting seeing how long other people remain undiagnosed isn't it?

I hope our lovely small community of undiagnosed help somehow, even if it's just a place to hang out and vent on those especialy awful days


Gald you found us  :)
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Great topic:
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Two big questions that perhaps we should all be thinking about:  One, why is it so hard or impossible to make even a little progress on conditions such as these... (a lot has to be in the mindsets of doctors, but that's a huge subject)?   Two, how do we get around this, if years of going from one MD to the next don't seem to be leading anyplace?  I'd like to think the Internet could be used creatively to find a different breed of doctor with a different point of view, or different priorities, or just more driven.... But as great a tool as the Internet is supposed to be, as much information as you can access with it, how do we search for it?
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I have been trying desperately to drive doctors here. I email at least 5 once a week if they have a moment would they consider visiting this forum and sharing advice.
I've heard of a diagnostician in the states somewhere who deals with undiagnosed patients and that's all he deals with, but for the life of me can't remember what search term I used on Google when I came across his website.

Have any of you contacted the :    
In Need Of Diagnosis, Inc. see post:http://www.undiagnosedillness.org/index.php/topic,9.0.html
I'm considering doing just that and see what the response is. States international so interested how they could help someone in Australia




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thank you Samantha! glad to have finally found a place to vent :)

I think i just ran across a name, not sure if its the one you are referring to, but a guy in new york - Dr. Thomas Bolte.  is this who you're referring to?


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Yes that name rings a bell   :P
Do you live anywhere near this Doctor?

thank you Samantha! glad to have finally found a place to vent :)

I think i just ran across a name, not sure if its the one you are referring to, but a guy in new york - Dr. Thomas Bolte.  is this who you're referring to?


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lol.. well i guess i live closer to him then you do! :/  no he's in new york, i'm in florida.  might have to look into it though.  before that though they might send me to the UF university hospital for a couple weeks as a case study.  hopefully that'll get some answers


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You've got nothing to lose ... why not give it some more thought and perhaps ring for info. I would if I lived close by. They don't have these programs in Australia. :'(

lol.. well i guess i live closer to him then you do! :/  no he's in new york, i'm in florida.  might have to look into it though.  before that though they might send me to the UF university hospital for a couple weeks as a case study.  hopefully that'll get some answers


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i think i have just got a new symptom.  for the past week or so i've thought that my finger tips were getting darker.  thought i was just grasping for straws so thought nothing of it, but this morning it became unmistakable.  the skin under my nails is turning purple or a slightly bluish color.  as well as the fingers themselves are getting paler, but the tips (after the last joint) are getting dark red almost brown.

also muscle twitches and spasms have become notably more frequent in the past few weeks

i scheduled an appt for next week.


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Im glad you've scheduled an appointment, sounds like blood flood problem doesn't it ?? are your fingers really sore ? or just the colour change ?
That is odd, let me know what the doctors have to say  :) and fingers crossed it provides a clue on your illness
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Sam

i think i have just got a new symptom.  for the past week or so i've thought that my finger tips were getting darker.  thought i was just grasping for straws so thought nothing of it, but this morning it became unmistakable.  the skin under my nails is turning purple or a slightly bluish color.  as well as the fingers themselves are getting paler, but the tips (after the last joint) are getting dark red almost brown.

also muscle twitches and spasms have become notably more frequent in the past few weeks

i scheduled an appt for next week.


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nah doesnt hurt or swollen or anything.  just seems to have changed color.  not sure if you can see it well but here's a picture


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it's been a good day so far.

only one thing to do.


RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
bwahahahahahahaha :D  Huge Hug :score010 :thumb :clap :chores012 ;D ;) :)

g'day mates

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See my positive vibes all weekend were good  Dance  Dance  Dance  Dance
We want someone to post in the "Recently Diagnosed" section Jas, and it just might be you  Huge Hug


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